Philadelphia Asian American Film Festival

Author name: Arzhang Zafar

Interview: Elaheh Esmaili & Hossein Behboudi Rad

NOTE: This article contains references to child abuse and sexual assault. It has been condensed and translated from the original Farsi. Partners in life and filmmaking, Elaheh Esmaili and Hossein Behboudi Rad have garnered acclaim in the international film festival circuit in recent years for their searingly intimate and humanistic short documentaries about issues affecting ordinary people in Iran today. The Doll and Can I Hug You?, both directed by Esmaili and produced by Behaboudi Rad, screened at the Philadelphia Asian American Film Festival in 2022 and 2024 respectively, the former winning our Best Documentary Short award that year. Aside from being heaped with many more awards and accolades, all three of their collaborations share something conspicuous in common. The Doll featured as its subjects members of Hossein’s own extended family, while Can I Hug You? put Hossein himself in the spotlight as he confronted childhood trauma. Their latest effort, A Move, depicts inter-generational conflict in Iran through the lens of Elaheh’s relationship with her family. All three films share a vulnerability rarely seen in the medium, which has evidently resonated with audiences around the world. Last month, I spoke with them about their partnership, process, and more… Hossein Behboudi Rad: The trophy that we received, when we won the (Best Documentary Short) award at your festival– we’ve won lots of awards but that was the first trophy we ever got. Elaheh Esmaili: I’m looking at it right now. At that time, none of the festivals were sending us trophies, so yours was our first one, the first physical award. And we said, finally, we have something to prove we’re real filmmakers. Arzhang Zafar: I didn’t know that! HBR: It made your festival very special for us. EE: Whenever my mom asks me what I’m doing, what being a filmmaker means, I just show her the trophy. AZ: So… When did you start making films? EE: In 2015 I was accepted into the University of Art in Tehran, where I got my Bachelor’s in film. My first film, The Doll, was actually my thesis film in this program. Afterwards I got my Master’s in directing, and I’ve been making films since. AZ: How early did you know you wanted to be a filmmaker? EE: There’s an institution in Iran called Kanoon, the Institute for Intellectual Development of Children and Young Adults. It’s the only institution that’s specifically for kids and teenagers, for developing your artistic and “soft” skills. I started attending at eight years old, and I took part in all of the art classes they offered, to figure out what I was interested in. I started working in theatre there, and we would put on puppet shows, which I loved, but when I went to high school I focused on maths and engineering. Eventually I realized I hated engineering, and because I had already experienced something different at Kanoon, I knew what I wanted to do at university. So when I was twenty-one or twenty-two years old I decided to go to art school. When I was twenty-four I began studying film. HBR: There was only one film school in Iran, and they would accept very few students. Elaheh needed to be within the top 50 applicants, and she studied so hard that she ended up getting the highest score. We were proud of her, but we didn’t know what she was going to do with a film degree. AZ: And yourself? HBR: In high school I was involved with theatre, and I enjoyed it. I had some interest and wanted to study art but I never thought very seriously about it, because I didn’t think my family would encourage me to pursue a career in the arts. Especially in a patriarchal society like Iran, it’s so hard if you do not have a “proper” job as a man. Then, when Elaheh began making films, I wanted to help. There wasn’t a lot of public funding available, so I thought I could help with that. Eventually it got to a point where I realized I was actually producing these films! AZ: What made you interested in documentary filmmaking specifically? HBR: I remember the first time I went to an international film festival, it was a documentary festival in Amsterdam. At the time I wasn’t particularly interested in documentaries, but Elaheh encouraged me to watch some films. I made sure to see all of the films that were from Iran and Afghanistan and Arab countries. I watched a film about Afghan children living in Iran. I grew up in Qom, and I went to school with kids from a lot of different backgrounds, including many from Afghanistan. There was a lot of prejudice toward these kids, and they were often bullied. When I saw this film, which was dealing with that very subject, I felt like it was speaking directly to me. It reminded me of so many experiences from my own life, and it struck me that it was possible to make a truly personal film in this way, to really intimately connect with an audience. When Elaheh was starting to develop her thesis film, we decided it should be a documentary focused on the child marriage of my cousin Asal. EE: What matters to me is the story. If I’m looking to make a film, the form it takes will really depend on the story. Some stories suit a documentary, others suit a narrative. This is how I think about stories, and during the years I was in film school I tried to learn both skill sets as well as I could so that I would always have the option of telling a story either as a documentary or a narrative. AZ: But the idea always comes first. EE: Yes. From the moment the idea comes to me I’m thinking about whether I see it as a narrative or a documentary. HBR: Something that documentaries have that set them apart from fiction films is that there are certain

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Have You Seen Yourself?

In Wayne Wang’s 1982 independent classic Chan is Missing, two characters are searching for the titular Chan, who acts throughout the film as a sort of cypher, representing various ideas about Chinese Americans (and Asian Americans more broadly). Chan never appears in the flesh–the aforementioned pair, Jo and Steve (Wood Moy and Marc Hayashi, respectively), spend the narrative meeting various contacts who all have different impressions of him. One of these, a Filipino man played by non-actor Presco Tabios in his only film role, gives a monologue in which he draws some metaphysical conclusions from Chan’s evasiveness. He concludes by referencing another friend’s tendency to gaze into puddles, and suggests that the amateur detectives might find Chan himself in such a place. The subtext is evident–Chan is a reflection of the observer, and in his absence, both the audience and the characters in the film project their own assumptions and ideas onto him. In the years since its release, Chan is Missing has gained a reputation as an important film, in its context as a micro-budget indie darling, an immigrant story, and even a noir film. But arguably it is discussed most often as a landmark film of Asian American cinema, being referred to as the first Asian American theatrical feature ever made in the United States. Obviously, all “firsts” are notable in their own way, but Chan is Missing is special even beyond this. With its poignantly absent central figure and its metafictional and philosophical dialogue, it uses its story to raise questions about identity, nationality, belonging, and most importantly of all, the very concept of representation. It is nice, perhaps even necessary, to be reassured that we are not alone. We know already, before any image appears on a screen, that there are others like us, who look like us or talk like us, who eat the same foods and listen to the same music and know the same old stories we heard as kids, passed down from generation to generation. New stories retell and contain the old ones. We are struck by recognition, and our hearts race with excitement or settle into a nostalgic calm. We are held tightly by our communion with familiar strangers, through sound and image. We are seen. Here in the United States, outside academic circles, talk of representation in media is largely confined to superficial assessments of the historically marginalized taking up positions of power or fantastical roles traditionally occupied by cisgender heterosexual white men. A Latinx president, an Indian American superhero. Even when taken more seriously, we are largely relegated to checked boxes–representation as inclusion or, more cynically, assimilation. What most glaringly appears to be missing here is representation as an avenue for empathy. In other words, rather than seeing ourselves occupying positions of power or disappearing into crowds of ordinary, upstanding citizens, can we not see ourselves in images of those worse off, without the same level of access? Can we see ourselves reflected in who we might be under other circumstances? The idea of storytelling as a means of building empathy is far older than cinema, likely older even than the written word; and that idea within cinema is older than more modern talks of the value of representation (specifically in the sense of demographic groups being reflected in the media and cultural output of the places in which they reside). Where these ideas have been synthesized is more complicated. We can take as an example the 1963 Iranian documentary The House Is Black. The only film directed by the poet Forugh Farrokhzad, it depicts, somewhat expressionistically but with minimal vocal explication, the abject yet undeniably valuable life within a leper colony. Farrokhzad and her crew do not dictate the terms under which the audience must view these people. They are undeniably victims of their disease, and their suffering is shown without varnish, but they are also shown to be eager students and to appreciate the wonders of creation, however simply those might manifest within their meager residence. They suffer, but they are not defined by their suffering. This depiction allows us to see the lepers as human, to identify aspects of ourselves in them which connect us across time and space. At the time of the film’s release, Iranians would have gained a better understanding of members of their own society who were otherwise invisible. In contrast, we might look at Ali Abbasi’s 2022 film Holy Spider. Abbasi shares with Farrokhzad an Iranian heritage, though he is of a younger generation and belongs to the diaspora, residing in Denmark when the film was conceived and produced. The film itself is essentially fiction, though based on the very real “Spider Killer” murders which took place in the Iranian city of Mashhad in the early 2000s. In Holy Spider, each of the killer’s victims, all of whom are (and were, in reality) female sex workers, is given a small amount of screen time to develop their characters before they are murdered. Though the actors portraying them do admirable work infusing them with humanity and making them relatable in different ways, they are not the primary entrypoint for identification in the film. That role is instead given to a woman journalist, Arezoo Rahimi. Unlike the killer’s targets, she is not portrayed as a victim. She is competent, confident, and, as far as both Iranian and Western societies are concerned, carries out a respectful profession. She is also a wholly fictional character. Why Abbasi would invent this character is not hard to determine–it is far easier and more comfortable for audiences to experience this story of violence and deprivation through the detached perspective of someone who can solve the problem, rather than succumb to it. More importantly, it is far harder to sell a movie in which the most fleshed out women are sex workers living in deep poverty. While Farrokhzad and Abbasi exist along the same continuum of national origin, and share some aspects of their identity in common, their

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